100xLife Podcast

Rob Dayton (00:00)
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Welcome to the 100X Life Podcast, where we activate people who desire to live the words of Jesus and experience the abundant life He promises. I'm your host, Rob Dayton, and I hope this podcast inspires you to put in the work of following Jesus.

Rob Dayton (00:15)
Hey, 100X Life, welcome back to the podcast. I've got a special conversation with Jeff Gerhart. We're out in Atlanta at a training, meta-performance training, which is beyond high performance. And as coaches, we need to really refine how we do coaching. And so we're going to let you in on some of the tools we're learning and how does that relate to 100X Life? How does that relate to the words of Jesus that you're trying to put into practice? I think you're going to love.

this conversation.

Rob Dayton (00:45)
Hey, so Jeff Gerhardt, here we are in Atlanta, Georgia. And we've been here for the last two days. We got one more day to go. Why are we here? What are we doing here?

Jeff Gerhardt (00:48)
We're here.

You know, that's the existential question. What am I here for? But we've been here going through the MetaPerformance Institute's foundations three day kickoff to this process that really is about MetaPerformance. And we've been just blown away by what we've learned through that. You and I got a copy of Beyond High Performance together.

chewing through that. And we are students of this kind of stuff where we think about how can I be better? How can I maximize my potential? And man, we've been drinking from the fire hose the past couple days learning about what would it look like for me to get out of my own way and do the thing that God made me for to a maximum extent.

Rob Dayton (01:43)
That's so good. Yeah. And I want to hear why you're here. Like, like, what is it doing for you? But I'll just say for me, as a coach, one of the things I truly believe in is coaching. love to be coached and I love to coach. And if a coach doesn't have a coach, do they really believe in coaching? know, like, so, so like, I want to position myself to be coached. And that's why I'm so elated about this time together.

Jeff Gerhardt (02:00)
No. No.

Rob Dayton (02:08)
this training because I feel like I'm sharpening honing the thing that I'm most passionate about, which is what the way I would describe that is transforming the person putting the light on, you know, being the light of the world being salt. How about you? What's what is this doing for you?

Jeff Gerhardt (02:24)
I'm in the same place because I really believe that no one gets anywhere without going there with someone else. And a coach gets to do that. They get to point out blind spots. They get to enable your thinking and help you to really solve for what's the answer and how can I get there? Now, you know, when we see great thinkers and innovators like Elon Musk, for example,

When he says something like, I'm going to get people to colonize Mars. If we said that 30, 40 years ago, we'd just sort of be like, that guy is going to be on a crazy farm or he's going to die trying. But creating reality, it's starting with the belief first. And that's the thing is that the leader, the one who wants to take people somewhere, they declare where they're going.

And whether it was Jesus saying, this is what's going to happen, or a great leader who says, this is what I believe can be, all of that starts by starting to declare it. And so we've been wrestling with that, Rob. Maybe you could talk a little bit about like, what does it mean to start to unpack the belief that I could be way more than I ever imagined?

Rob Dayton (03:35)
Yeah, let's go there. ⁓ And just a little bit of framing for people who are listening. The reason why we include you in our conversation is that, we both believe very strongly in our partners in kingdom entrepreneurs and transforming their way they think. We want to transform the way you think. We want you to think as Jesus would think. We want your ways to be

Jeff Gerhardt (03:49)
Yes.

Rob Dayton (03:57)
Jesus's ways to be your ways. And so this this conversation is about how do I get there? And, we talk about the Master's program, which the two of us partner in 100 X life. Also the words of Jesus. How do we put those into practice? So this conversation is really about giving you a solid grid to move forward. What do I do if I want to reach this thing in the Master's program, it's calling, how

How do I position myself for calling? How do I position myself for life mastery? Maybe in 100X life is how, you you've heard it said, what would Jesus do? And, you know, and then I say, well, what did Jesus say to do? So 100X life is the 55 things. And then how do we put that into practice? So yeah, let's start, let's start by talking about what is usually the typical way that we try to.

Jeff Gerhardt (04:34)
Yeah, right.

Rob Dayton (04:47)
transform. What do you, what did you identify in this training as the first step that is the typical, not what we'd recommend, but the typical.

Jeff Gerhardt (04:55)
Man, typical is jumping in and doing and just thinking, I'm going to figure this out on the fly. But there's this underlying suspicion that maybe we won't get there. leaders typically have a high tolerance for ambiguity. I'm not sure like what the steps are. We'll figure it out. We'll align as we go. We quick start and get rolling. And so the

danger is that I can just start moving, but I have this underlying thing of if it's not coming together, that maybe I could let it go or that I won't stay committed. I know that anything that I do ultimately requires a certain amount of grit. And so it's the last 10 % of every project that gets things

over the top. if we're really going to do more than we've ever imagined, we have to find a different way to get that stoked in us. Otherwise, like I said, it's like I'll charge out the door. And I know great leaders, by the way, that are not quick starts that will plot things out. But it's a lot more planning to do. And it's missing this key element.

a vision, a compelling vision, one that's thrilling, that it's measurable, and that there's a certain amount of like, I don't know how it's all going to work for me to get there. So we have to build a vision first. Otherwise this, this doing it could be sidelined. The simple example is I could say today, I'm going to lose 20 pounds. I'm just

I'm committed to losing 20 pounds and the due of that, yeah, without a buy time on that, without some more specificity, without me falling in love with the gap between where I'm at to where I'm going, then it could easily be, well, just put to the side and that I could completely just say, well, it wasn't that important or I got busy.

Rob Dayton (06:48)
certain time.

Jeff Gerhardt (07:10)
I was too busy. And then I start using language that says I wasn't in control and I gave it up along the way. So overcoming that is a process of building incredible vision. Rob, as you were thinking about that, what's your experience of vision driving our work rather than just charging out the door and going for it?

Rob Dayton (07:35)
Well, so are you asking about like the process we want to head head towards or the process that we typically do?

Jeff Gerhardt (07:42)
Well, I'm thinking still in the typically do because I was reflecting on my reflexes, your reflexes. Yeah.

Rob Dayton (07:44)
Okay, cool. I just was asking, I wanted to make sure.

Yeah. Yeah. So I would say, you we, you're talking about, have, we have a strategy and I think the vision, there's some certain visions, like in a hundred X life, the vision is what Jesus said to do. It's not like takes a lot of creativity. maybe, ⁓ shaping the mindset for that vision takes some creativity.

And then there's in life mastery, if we present them in the room in the master's program, that has some pretty hard targets. Vision for calling, I think, is this expansive thing you're talking about, like vision for your life and how it could be radically different. You said to me something that hit me pretty squarely early in the day where you said, it's it's the Ephesians, you'll tell me the address. It's more than we can ask, imagine or ask for.

And what is the address on that?

Jeff Gerhardt (08:32)
Yeah.

Rob Dayton (08:37)
Okay, Ephesians 320. if that's Paul's calling to our life is more than we could get asked for or imagine, then our vision, at least in the area of how God has designed us, who he wants us to be really needs to be grandiose. It needs to be something that, gee, I can't even imagine that happening by then. I don't know if that's going to happen. I mean, I could ask for it, but I don't really have a lot of hope for it.

Jeff Gerhardt (08:39)
Yeah.

Rob Dayton (09:05)
then we might be getting close to the target area in terms of Holy Spirit's expectation for us. Does that make sense or how would you say about

Jeff Gerhardt (09:07)
But so there's.

Yeah, no, but so the danger for me, the story that I tell myself that this could just be another disappointing Christmas. And so when I was growing up, I wanted a Commodore 64 computer. I just really, really, really wanted that. And that was beyond my.

Rob Dayton (09:32)
Nice.

Jeff Gerhardt (09:35)
parents means at the time. And I remember still hoping, believing, begging, and thinking that it's going to show up. And then you get to Christmas and it's underwear and socks and clothes and you know, that young boy is disappointed. And so the story that carries with me is that all of this could be in that same space. Like, God, are you just going to be a big disappointment?

Rob Dayton (09:57)
Wow. Yeah.

Jeff Gerhardt (10:00)
or maybe I wasn't good enough, or maybe you want me to do something different. But this whole concept of, you know, delight yourself in the Lord and he will give you the desires of your heart. This process of believing in the expanse of what could be is the place that we love to play in. So this is freeing and frightening at

Rob Dayton (10:05)
Yes.

Come on.

Jeff Gerhardt (10:25)
the same time, there's a measurable amount of, whoa, it has, for me, Rob, it was like walking up to the edge of a bridge to bungee jump off of, because I just don't know how this is gonna go. I'm pretty sure that I'm tethered tight enough that I'm not gonna die, but it has an element of that thing could snap, things could go horribly wrong.

Rob Dayton (10:46)
The stories are

still playing. The stories are still playing in your head. I love that. I think that that's really strategic to bring that up in the conversation because I know that that is such a real thing. So I think what you're saying is we've got this vision, but then we've got stories we're telling ourselves that impede the vision. I'm thinking of like my kind of life story when I was really duplicative at a young age,

Jeff Gerhardt (10:49)
Yeah, yeah, fully.

Rob Dayton (11:10)
Jesus's vision was if you even look at another woman with lust you've committed adultery and my vision was that Impossible, either Jesus didn't know anatomy and how it works or some guy wrote that in and it wasn't Jesus so ⁓ You know so that that in my vision of that's not possible Really drove what what was possible and so it became impossible for me and then that led to all sorts of

Jeff Gerhardt (11:16)
Mm-hmm.

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Rob Dayton (11:39)
malicious behavior. I'm trying to think of other examples that people who are listening might have, like perhaps in your vision for your marriage. Maybe

the story you're telling yourself is, I just got the wrong one and I'll never achieve my vision. Or maybe I got the wrong kid. Or it was that moment in adolescence that I said that thing and now the person's poisoned, the kid is poisoned, so it ain't going to happen.

Can you think of some other examples? I'm thinking like career. What would be the impediment of the story someone would tell themselves in their career?

Jeff Gerhardt (12:11)
That things like money is bad. And so I shouldn't have that.

money or promotion, you know, I don't deserve that or, you know, all the sort of self-limiting beliefs that can come in the career space or, you know, I don't think that it's possible for me to have X and Y together. And so I just I give up and settle for just X and, and so the possible just just lowers the bar but

We talk about that as that phantom red line, right? That silent killer that comes across and says, is the max that you can do in all of your life. And so you just give up, you cede to saying, you know, I'm not the right gender. I'm not the right person with this sort of heritage. I don't know that many people and all the excuses that are self-limiting and ways with which I'll...

Rob Dayton (12:46)
Yes.

Yes.

Jeff Gerhardt (13:08)
comfort myself, I'll soothe the lack of and then just hope for the max underneath that thin red line that's come on my life to say this is the max that you can ever get to.

Rob Dayton (13:20)
That's so good. And I think maybe it's important to point out that there's an enemy that joins in on that chorus that really accentuates that. And just like the devil worked with Jesus if you really are the son of God, then, calling into question identity and then emphasizing that negative story you're already telling yourself. So that those things can be a big impediment. And then

again, we're talking about how we typically go about a thing and how it's not working for us. It, almost feels like this, this side of being the strategic first and then getting the vision and then the mindset. It almost feels like that's a Roman seven mentality where I do what I don't want to do. And I don't do what I want to do. And it feels like this trap thing we're trying, but we're not.

And I think a lot of us relent. And I think I've even heard this from the pulpit from time to time, whether it was intentional or not. I don't know. But you'll never be able to do it. You're never going to measure up. How do you how do you take your vision and work against that? Like, what what is the key for you in overcoming that thought? And someone who's like, well, Jeff, you're just a sinner.

Do well, but you probably won't.

Jeff Gerhardt (14:30)
Yeah, I think that my natural sort of move is to have a Missouri state of mind, which is show me and then I'll believe. Right. And so because I do that, then I wait around and then it never comes. And so it's just a self-fulfilling prophecy that just the way that it is. But what we work towards and this is this is the mind shifts towards what could be.

Rob Dayton (14:45)
Yes.

Jeff Gerhardt (14:56)
is to believe, to believe in my bones first and that believing is the first step. My natural inclination would be something along the lines of I'm going to do it and then I'm going to have it and then someone's going to recognize me as being. And so I'll work real hard. I'll go get another degree. I'll go get some other certification.

Rob Dayton (15:11)
Come on.

Jeff Gerhardt (15:19)
And then because I've credentialed and I've created credibility, then someone's going to award me the big money, the big something. And then someone's going to say, Jeff, you're amazing. And that seems like, well, that's the cycle that, that everybody goes through, but it's out of order. And that the, the launching point is being first. And so the being is the believing.

and that my current status is first of all, I truly in my bones believe that I have a God with cattle on a thousand hills. There's no limits to the way that he can provide for me. And between me and the end game of this dream, there will be all sorts of twists and turns, but because the dream, the vision is so strong.

Rob Dayton (15:55)
Yes.

Come on.

Jeff Gerhardt (16:09)
Right now, I already believe in my bones it's gonna happen. I believe that I am. Now, there's a cost to this, the truth is, and the skeptics would say, well, Jeff, you can believe that you're gonna be Tiger Woods, but let's be real, right? And so if I started there with the belief of I'm going to be Tiger Woods, there would be a cost of an extraordinary, and I'm not sure that I could get there, but just an extraordinary amount.

Rob Dayton (16:37)
you

Jeff Gerhardt (16:37)
of

sacrifice. And so the question is, how much am I willing to believe? And then when I believe, and I'm selling out to that, which is to say I'm going to go there with all my heart. And even if, and this is, this is something that, that Heather and I say to each other's even, even if even if this does not work out, even if everything goes to pot.

Rob Dayton (16:39)
Yes.

Jeff Gerhardt (17:02)
completely like I will still have had the thrill of that cycle and maybe the crushing moment of not getting there isn't crushing, it's just this the reformation that I needed for where I'm going next. so I'm not crazy to want it. I just have to want it crazy.

Rob Dayton (17:09)
Come on.

Jeff Gerhardt (17:29)
And that being is first and then I'm going to go for it and launch out. And over time, I'll recognize that vision. And so that's the cycle we talk about in session one, right? Is my, my current status, my future goals, my past achievements, but I have to really inflate the being. And that's why our, our vision is being ambassadors and royalty is so important.

Rob Dayton (17:39)
Yeah, it's good.

Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

Jeff Gerhardt (17:55)
to my current being because if I say I'm just, and I play that down, I lose the ability to truly, truly be there.

Rob Dayton (18:02)
disempowering words that are evidence of a negative mindset. Yeah. So, so for those of you who are listening, just to frame, where, where most of us are and then where we're going. So we, we have this vision and maybe we believe we will say, we'll believe it when we see it. So we put into practice a strategy in the hopes that we will get there and finally be or have the mindset.

that is necessary to actually exist that way. And so what we're suggesting is, and Jeff is saying mindset first, we're gonna be that person first. And it just, really kind of makes so much sense in terms of Jesus and what he says first,

Repent and believe, repent and believe. words of Jesus, number one. So like you, you repent. And as we've said in such a disciplined way, and I hope you've got this through your skulls, it's we're not we're not ⁓ it's not being sorry. It's actually transforming the way you think. And so what Jeff is saying is we got to transform the way we think first. And That's an internal

Jeff Gerhardt (18:49)
and and I'm the of the importance of the of importance of of importance of importance of of the the importance of of of importance

importance of of importance importance importance of importance of of of of of of of of importance of of of of

Rob Dayton (19:08)
construct that is even before we do any strategy, we've got to get in our heads that this is true. And then when that

happens, we're gonna we're gonna land the vision because we're gonna start doing the things that the strategy we do do is going to be in alignment with that mindset. Did I get that right? Would you add anything to that?

Jeff Gerhardt (19:34)
Man, you hit it right on the head. The only thing that, again, the skeptic in me is still saying, OK, well, what happens when this doesn't work out? ⁓

Rob Dayton (19:45)
Yeah.

Jeff Gerhardt (19:46)
And that process, right? So the first thing is stay committed to who you are. Stay committed to the being. And then, so when the doing isn't working, we're changing the doing. It's not to just beat ourselves against the wall and say, should work, it will work, it should, and it doesn't. We need to continue to learn and change and grow as we adjust the do.

Rob Dayton (19:52)
Yes.

Come

Jeff Gerhardt (20:13)
to get to where we're going, I can say that in many things that I've had vision for in my life, I've gotten really stubborn, like just pigheaded. Like this is the only way, this is the one way across those mountains. And it's not, but I've just told myself so much and continue to run a course that isn't yielding instead of, well, what if could we explore the possible? Could we even?

Rob Dayton (20:23)
Yeah.

Jeff Gerhardt (20:39)
put on the lenses that my beliefs are actually why we're failing here.

Rob Dayton (20:44)
That is so good. Yeah. And it seems like, like what I feel like what I worked on worked on my entire life or something that's kind of a theme in my life that is so congruent with what we're learning this weekend is, that verse in James one about consider it pure joy, my brother. And whenever you face trials of many kinds, cause the, endurance that it comes from that will develop perseverance and perfection. And that.

that verse from a very young age kind of really rung as like, well, if, if, if Paul's giving us that wise counsel, it must be possible. Like it must be possible. And so I feel like in my life, I'd really tried to believe that first before I knew that the language of the process, I was like, well, if there's a trial, I got to be happy because this is going to be beneficial to me.

Jeff Gerhardt (21:19)
Right.

Rob Dayton (21:34)
And that that what I'm painting for you is a mindset. That's a mindset so that when a trial hits, I get a little excited. You know, is this is this possible? with Nancy's cancer last year and how, frightening at first, but then, OK, well, there's an upgrade here. There's something here. And that's that mindset. I'll give you another example recently.

in a because I feel like I'm really honing on this. This is what we want the people we work what to do is to be able to transform your mind repent to a thing. So here it is. So you know, the story Jeff is, we felt like God wanted us to sell our house in Santa Barbara. And that houses, ⁓ you've been there, insane, beautiful dream in the most beautiful, psychedelic place on earth. it's time to sell the house, like

Jeff Gerhardt (22:13)
Beautiful.

Rob Dayton (22:21)
You know, it took a lot, took a lot

to get my heart engaged in that. Yeah, I was more going to be obedient before. And so we landed in Bend and we got this house and this house is nowhere near the paradise that we have. And it's a wonderful house. We're not sacrificing anything. It's just not the house that I built. It's just not the house that has all this detail and time and passion that I'm like, hey, come and experience what I've created. So it's not that.

So I decided I am going to repent about this house. I'm going to transform the way I think about this house. So here's what I did. I just started being thankful, like excessively. I'm going to sleep. I'm like, thank you God for this house. I would walk through the house and I would look at different elements and I say, well, that's, that's amazing. I, I get to live here. This is, this is so, I got this view. I got this.

This is so beautiful. This is perfect for Nancy and me. And Nancy started doing it too. And I got to tell you, it was such a short period of time. I would say probably like a month or two, and Nancy and I are looking at each other, and this happens almost every morning. I cannot believe we live here. This is so amazing. And my emotions now, so first, and this is what you were saying, first was belief.

So we've got to get the mindset, but look what's followed. Now it's natural. My emotions are in sync. I'm actually speaking the language of gratefulness and appreciation. All the doing is coming out naturally because the mindset was transformed first. And so that's what we want you to hear. then so think about as we're talking, like, what is the thing that the mindset that you need?

right now that you can change. can change the way you think. How would Jeff, how would you do you have a like a hack or a way that you kind of focus or recreate the way you're thinking rewire ⁓ your neuroplasticity in your brain?

Jeff Gerhardt (24:10)
⁓

So Rob, this is a lot of work. And so don't want to pretend, right? Is that like I've got a switch in my mind that I just think this way and then I change my mind. You talked about a couple of months worth.

Rob Dayton (24:30)
Right.

Jeff Gerhardt (24:37)
of gratitude and like making your mouth say something. And at first, maybe even that first time, like I don't believe it. That's a lie. Or, ⁓ or just like, I don't want to say it. I don't want to say it. And, and then it gets out. And so like the work here for us for me to get anything done is just to say it.

Rob Dayton (24:48)
Yeah.

Yes.

Jeff Gerhardt (25:01)
And what I do is I create a community of concern because as I say it, I say things like I'm not drinking alcohol, right? And then as I say that out loud, I create a community of concern. It doesn't matter why, whatever. It just means that someone else heard me. I heard me and my soul heard me and even my spirit, of course. And so as I'm saying it and I'm saying it and other people are hearing it.

they're starting to expect it. that's what Jeff's doing now. And in the early days of saying that, it's like, well, is that really what you believe? Is that really what you want? Are you sure you want that, Jeff? And all of that, but the saying is the work. So I can't just keep it in my mind. I can't silently say, you know, some sort of Stuart Smalley, you're good enough, you're smart enough, and gosh darn it, people like you. Like, I can't just look in the mirror and think, think, think.

There's a certain amount of saying it. And I think this is why community is so critical. It's because, you know, your spouse, your family, your key relationships, the work for me is saying it, even when I don't feel it, just keep saying it, just keep saying it.

Rob Dayton (26:07)
Yes.

That's that's so good. And then I would just remind people, in the 100 X life process, the mind is outside of the brain. The brain is part of the body. It's the malleable programmable. Jeff was referencing my two months of gratitude that was transforming the way I thought were maybe honing what I thought about this house. the situation with me getting out of pornography and actually believing that Jesus

is asking me not to think of another woman because that would be adultery. So getting my mind around that that that was a three year process because that one in my brain was so wired for self gratification and sex. it was a it was a it was a grind. But but what had to happen is I had to believe this is who I am. This is my identity. Jesus is calling me to this place of purity. It is possible. And if I do think of another woman, I am

I am cheating on my wife. And also, if I'm thinking of another woman, it is it's going to come out in the way I'm behaving naturally in front of my wife. So it's like it's truly impacting the relationship, whether she knows or not. My behavior is acting like I'm committing adultery, because that's the way that's the way the science works. So reprogram that that brain and continue to think and not

get discouraged. I think this is key, Jeff. And I know we talked about this today in classes, you can't get discouraged or shame yourself and join with the enemy and beating yourself up when you're in the process of manifesting the belief that you're holding in your head and reprogramming your brain. You can't shame it. ⁓ You can't, this is the big this is kind of my opinion. And I would be interested to know what you think, Jeff. But I think sin

Jeff Gerhardt (27:52)
Okay.

Rob Dayton (28:00)
used to be missing the mark. And I think after the cross, sin is just missing out. The penalty for all your behaviors have been paid for. And now we

get to see life as a gymnasium where we're working out the muscles of belief into doing so that we can reach that vision. Does that hit it for you or is there a different way?

Jeff Gerhardt (28:22)
No, you're it right on the head. It's just, it's getting rid of, it's like, you know, that mindset that says that pain is weakness leaving the body, right? Is that, you know, the absence of sin, the continuing to conform,

Rob Dayton (28:35)
yet.

Jeff Gerhardt (28:37)
is the opportunity for abundance that Jesus promised us. And so this growth, it's actually to believe that every one of, and we talked about this, how every broken commitment is not a place for shame, but actually a discovery point, gold inside of a broken commitment to learn why did that happen? And what am I believing that now I need to unlock?

Rob Dayton (28:52)
Right.

Jeff Gerhardt (29:03)
And so rather than sitting there and beating yourself up, Jeff, should have, why didn't you, you're dumb or some terrible, disempowering language. We just have opportunity to believe that every broken commitment is a learning opportunity and that Jesus has already redeemed that. And so I'm going to continue to work towards, Lord, what am I saying to myself? Or how am I thinking? What's the tripping behavior that's driving that broken commitment?

Rob Dayton (29:11)
Yeah.

Right.

in sports, this was just really logical to all of us. Like if someone says my commitment is to breaking the four minute mile, which was a thing right now, now it's been done. But, you know, that's my commitment. How many times do you have to break your commitment before you succeed? I mean, we all get that. Like you're going to have to break it hundreds and hundreds of times before you build.

Jeff Gerhardt (29:46)
and

Rob Dayton (29:53)
the capacity to break that and actually fulfill the commitment. So Jesus is calling us to this place, which is it's an amazing place of fulfillment and the abundant life that he's calling to us. And when I say that, I mean, in every single word he's calling you to do, and then individually, you specifically, and they're very high, they seem like they're very high places. And so when you talk about breaking commitments, what I think about is the sports analogy.

We're going to have to break a lot. We're going to have to have the commitment. You know, in my case that I I'm not even going to look at another woman and lust. And then we're going to have to break that commitment along the way, which is the building process is how we get better and better and better and better. I don't set a target in the gym for lifting a certain weight and then expect I'm going to do it that day. That might take months of work and building up to it. My commitment is still high.

And I'm going to believe that this process of failure, know, one, two steps forward, one step back

Jeff Gerhardt (30:51)
Thanks.

Rob Dayton (30:54)
is actually exciting and vigorating that it's actually a growth process where I'm getting better and celebrating the small wins and know that I'm getting stronger to actually fulfill that commitment.

Jeff Gerhardt (31:09)
Rob, the enemy then is perfection, right? It's to say that unless this has worked perfect, a failure, it's a binary sort of be perfect or be terrible. And in fact, progress, not perfection, that incremental commitment towards that long term is the key.

Rob Dayton (31:21)
Right.

Yeah, and I think of perfection. Here's how I resolve that in my own mind with Jesus is that the cross created perfection. You are perfect, Jeff. To tell us that, it's finished. You are perfect. I am perfect. The people who are listening to us, they're perfect now. And now we have the authority of the cross over any kind of behavior. And what we're suggesting is you start with over any thought. I'm going to have my mind take a

Authority over the the natural thoughts that are emanating from my body, which is my malleable brain I'm gonna take authority over those thoughts. I'm gonna actually Reprogram it with a different thought so that I can actually manifest the behavior to get to the vision I know I want to achieve

Jeff Gerhardt (32:04)
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So Rob, this is where we get to love the gap, right? Is to look at the gap between who I am and where my... ⁓

Rob Dayton (32:21)
Yes. Tell us about that. Tell us about loving the gap because,

in the, in the Dan Sullivan model in the gap in the game, which we've talked about here, at least on my channel, I don't know about yours, but I think we have, uh, is that we're supposed to appreciate the gains we've made and not focus on the gap because then that can get depleting or a deplete our resources because it's just, it's just endless. It's like chasing a sunset. So tell us about this love the gap.

Jeff Gerhardt (32:48)
Well, if I'm keeping in gratitude, I definitely love the game and I see all the incremental improvements. So that's a good thing. Gratitude for what I've gained. But the concept is, okay, but if I'm going for something, the distance between where I am to where I want to be, I have to stay out of a category of fear. I want to give myself to the category of love. And so loving the gap.

is to believe all sorts of adjectives about who I am versus what I'm striving for. So grace, lots of grace on what I don't have and who I'm becoming and contentment, curiosity, things like hope and wonder and fun and excitement and collaboration. All these things can be very messy, imperfect, sometimes not science, but it's a

passion for a love for commitment to it's just I love the opportunity to go for that and I love to continue to see the incremental gains and so rather than not even understanding or thinking about the gap I'm just in love with it. I'm like this is Amazing, even though it is messy. I am NOT this yet, but I'm becoming and I'm pursuing

And so, you know, it all boils down to, you know, true love casts out all fear and, you know, God is love. So if we're in love with the Lord and we believe we see ourselves the way he sees us, we take out those elements that keep us from these deflating things where I think I'm never going to make it. This is overwhelming. I just don't even believe it or shame worse yet, you know, and living there.

Rob Dayton (34:28)
Yeah.

Jeff Gerhardt (34:34)
And that part of the gap, the fear side of the gap is the missed opportunity. We get to love the gap, love the things that we aren't yet, while we're committed to it and we don't ever, ever, ever give up.

Rob Dayton (34:48)
when you describe it that way, what comes to mind is kind of life in the rear view mirror. And there's so many times, and I think that our listeners could be actually imagining their own lives. Typically, you you go back 30 years and you would never think that you would be at the place you are now.

Jeff Gerhardt (34:54)
Mm.

Rob Dayton (35:07)
You know, it's like there's so many miracles along the way where God has brought you. And of course, some people still, you know, are in a place of despair. So I want to be sensitive to that. But typically.

Jeff Gerhardt (35:16)
Okay.

Rob Dayton (35:17)
You see where God has been and he took you to a new level. of course, because we wanted to go there, we, we had a desire for that. And then more than we asked for or imagined, he gave us the upgrade. And so when I'm looking back, it's kind of like that song, what's that song where it's do it again. You know, it's like, I believe he's going to do it again. It's, like, what you're saying is loving the gap is like the assurance that the past.

proves it's going to happen again. And therefore, that's how I can lean in and love the gap right now, because God's gonna do it again, it's just gonna happen again. and I think it's really important for us to really point out that it doesn't just happen. God just you know, it can happen. I've seen Holy Spirit wave his hand. And, and stuff stuff happens, but

take someone to make a decision. He's giving you free will and choice. So you've got to choose. And I think just in review, what we're saying is you've got this vision you want to get to. Whether that's a word of Jesus, you want to learn how to love your enemies, you want to learn how to deny yourself, you want to learn how to love your spouse, your kids, you want to be a better business person, you want to be a better steward of God's.

money, you want to be a better steward of your body, all these things require a new mindset. First, we've got to start thinking, transforming the way we think, so that in our minds, this is it's clear, we've got it. And I think what you're going to say, you said at the beginning of the call is that typically we do, ⁓ I'll believe it when I see it. And the

really the biblical model is I'm going to believe it in order to see it. That's true. That's very true in heaven, right? You got to believe it to see it. And we believe that that's

Jeff Gerhardt (36:55)
Yeah.

Rob Dayton (36:59)
the case for almost all life. You got to believe that. And God has some pretty amazing things to say about you and your identity and where he wants to take you. And so the first step is to believe that thing, manifest the actions, the strategies so that you actually become the doer of all those things.

Did I miss something? Would you add something to that? Just kind of a summary.

Jeff Gerhardt (37:22)
I think if I was going to run out and get a tattoo right now.

It would be mindset. It would say mindset before skillset, mindset before skillset, because emblazing that on to me is to have the thing to know I need that first and then. So mindset before skillset. That's what we're after.

Rob Dayton (37:26)
Come on.

That's a good way to land it. I think there's so many things. mean, we talk about mindset in 100X life We talk about mindset in session two. And it becomes the foundation for almost every transformation we're doing for the people we sit in front of and the people we want to have transform is creating that mindset.

So awesome. Any final thoughts about this this weekend and the transformation that's happening just in the fine tuning the tools that we already have?

Jeff Gerhardt (38:16)
I have so many thoughts Rob. I know that I think you and I could probably do another 45 minutes on this, but let me just say that all of my beliefs need to be examined for is that the way God sees me? Is that what the Trinity believes about this? Jeff, have you limited your God?

under your own self-limiting beliefs. And I'm here to tell you that I am and I have, and there's some new things that need to be undone. what is it for our listeners, for me, for us to say, God, you've shown me a possibility. I've dreamt about something before. I'm going to stop putting my own filters on things that are going to keep me from, and I'm going to start believing so that I can see.

That's how I would wrap this up.

Rob Dayton (39:09)
Well said. That's perfect. And thanks for getting on the call with me because this has been awesome. And I know we're going to continue the conversation probably over dinner. Okay. See you soon.

Jeff Gerhardt (39:14)
so much for them.

Yes, so

good to be here. All right.

Rob Dayton (39:19)
Bye.

Rob Dayton (39:19)
So guys, I hope you liked that conversation with Jeff. ⁓ Shoot me an email if you have any questions about it, robdaten at 100XLife.com. Here's your journal prompts, okay? So we're trying to set this mindset. So asking one member of the Trinity, you choose your choice. Papa God, Jesus, Holy Spirit, ask them, give me something that I desire to do and give me a vision for what that's going to be. Speak to me.

Papa and tell me what you see I'm going to achieve in terms of following this word of Jesus or loving my spouse or being a better father or mother. So what's the vision? So you're first asking him what's the vision you have for me? And again, again, I'm pretty hopeful that he's going to paint something bigger, bigger than you're used to. Okay, second journal prompt is and that step one is the mindset. So Holy Spirit.

What is the mindset I'm going to need to have in order to fulfill this vision? So those are the journal prompts. Ask them, get your mindset honed in, and then go do the work. Have a wonderful day. Have a wonderful week, and we will see you next time.